On Black Friday of 2024, Taylor Swift released “The Eras Tour Book” exclusively through Target. Does it count as a book, though? And what does it mean for the publishing industry as a whole?

Jane Friedman of “The Hot Sheet” is back with Joe and Elly to give her thoughts on book-shaped objects.

(Note: This episode was recorded before the book actually released. Joe’s post-release comment— “Since even diehard fans were unhappy with the quality of the book, it’s hard to Bielieve the thinkpieces claiming that celebrities don’t need publishers anymore.”)

Stay tuned for more episodes of the “A People’s Guide to Publishing” podcast! We upload every Thursday, discussing your publishing questions, logistics, and more. Back episodes can be found on the Microcosm website.